{"id":484,"date":"2005-02-15T01:15:35","date_gmt":"2005-02-15T06:15:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/frustrated-trader-dont-buy-gap-ups-near-the-open\/"},"modified":"2005-02-15T01:15:35","modified_gmt":"2005-02-15T06:15:35","slug":"frustrated-trader-dont-buy-gap-ups-near-the-open","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/frustrated-trader-dont-buy-gap-ups-near-the-open\/","title":{"rendered":"Frustrated Trader &#8211; Don&#8217;t Buy Gap Ups Near the Open!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>I appreciate all the upgrades you&#8217;ve made to selfinvestors.com since I <br \/>\nstarted subscribing in July.&nbsp; However, about the only thing I&#8217;ve accomplished, <br \/>\nsince resuming my active investing last June, has been to limit my <br \/>\nlosses.&nbsp; After numerous trades, my only significant gain was 21% on DHB.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure some of this resulted from poor decisions on my part.&nbsp; But one <br \/>\nproblem is that, even if I could arrange to watch specific stocks in <br \/>\nreal time and\/or receive your buy &amp; sell e-mails in a timely manner, my <br \/>\nday job doesn&#8217;t lend itself to making immediate trades.&nbsp; With few <br \/>\nexceptions, I must make my buy &amp; sell decisions in the evening or early <br \/>\nin the morning&#8211;before the market opens &amp; before you send your buy &amp; <br \/>\nsell e-mails.<\/p>\n<p>Last night I made another decision that is not working out well.&nbsp; After <br \/>\nreading about OMM on your watch list, I researched it at investors.com <br \/>\n&amp; other internet sites.&nbsp; The fundamentals &amp; earnings report seemed very <br \/>\ngood, and the stock was up nicely in after-hours trading.&nbsp; I bought at <br \/>\nthe open today (with a limit order) and am already down more than 7%.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m seriously wondering whether I should return to investing in mutual <br \/>\nfunds&#8211;which I don&#8217;t find particularly interesting.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d welcome your comments.&nbsp; Thank you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>My Response<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>As far as the time issue I understand.&nbsp; Other members have expressed similar <br \/>\nconcern about implementing this method successfully while maintaining a full <br \/>\ntime job.&nbsp; It can be done.&nbsp; I&#8217;m willing to work with you until you are <br \/>\nsuccessful if you&#8217;re willing.&nbsp; You sound like you are.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of key things from what you are telling me:<br \/>\n1.&nbsp; I think I have mentioned this a couple to times before in emails, but <br \/>\nnow I realize I haven&#8217;t highlighted this enough.&nbsp; It is very important.&nbsp; You <br \/>\nalmost NEVER want to buy a stock in the first half hour of trading, <br \/>\nESPECIALLY on a gap up after an earnings report.&nbsp; In the first half hour <br \/>\ntrading, overnight orders are filled and there is much manipulation going on <br \/>\nfrom market makers.&nbsp; You get a much more accurate direction of a stock after <br \/>\nthat first half hour.&nbsp; In the OMM example, I was looking to pull the trigger <br \/>\nonly if it proved the breakout.&nbsp; What do I mean by this?&nbsp; It proves the <br \/>\nbreakout only if the stock clears the high that it made in the first half <br \/>\nhour.&nbsp; The stock never confirmed a buy.&nbsp; In your situation you probably <br \/>\nwould not have been around long enough to wait to see if it would confirm a <br \/>\npurchase &#8211; what you could have done is set a buy stop order above the high <br \/>\npoint of the first half hour.&nbsp; The order will execute only if it clears the <br \/>\nhigh for the first half hour (you would just need to make sure that the high <br \/>\npoint of that first half hour would still be within 5% from the pivot, which <br \/>\nin this case I would have been).<\/p>\n<p>That is one strategy.&nbsp; A safer strategy would be to just hold off on the <br \/>\nbreakout and wait for a return to the pivot area, which about half of stocks <br \/>\nwill do.&nbsp; There is nothing wrong with holding off on the initial breakout <br \/>\nand waiting for the stock to return to an acceptable buy range (0 &#8211; 5% from <br \/>\nthe breakout point).&nbsp; The Buy Watch screen lists stocks near a breakout, but <br \/>\nalso lists stocks that are still within an acceptable buy range.&nbsp; For <br \/>\nexample, INFY remains in a buyable range, but I&#8217;m waiting for a drop to <br \/>\naround the 72 range before entering.&nbsp; There is a good chance the stock could <br \/>\ndo this in the morning when you are able to watch or you could set a buy <br \/>\nlimit order at 72, so that your order gets filled if it drops to that point. <br \/>\nDOW is another great company highlighed that has been slow to breakout which <br \/>\ncould have been purchased this morning.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: I appreciate all the upgrades you&#8217;ve made to selfinvestors.com since I started subscribing in July.&nbsp; However, about the only thing I&#8217;ve accomplished, since resuming my active investing last June, has been to limit my losses.&nbsp; After numerous trades, my only significant gain was 21% on DHB. I&#8217;m sure some of this resulted from poor &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/frustrated-trader-dont-buy-gap-ups-near-the-open\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Frustrated Trader &#8211; Don&#8217;t Buy Gap Ups Near the Open!<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-484","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail-bag"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/484","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=484"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/484\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=484"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=484"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=484"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}