{"id":481,"date":"2005-01-24T00:24:31","date_gmt":"2005-01-24T05:24:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/discussion-of-a-short-trade-dont-place-stops-at-whole-numbers\/"},"modified":"2005-01-24T00:24:31","modified_gmt":"2005-01-24T05:24:31","slug":"discussion-of-a-short-trade-dont-place-stops-at-whole-numbers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/discussion-of-a-short-trade-dont-place-stops-at-whole-numbers\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussion of a Short Trade &#8211; Don&#8217;t Place Stops At Whole Numbers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>Would you cover on an intra-day bounce above 31 or closing above 31?<\/p>\n<p><strong>My Response<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>The reason for waiting until market close would be&nbsp; to see what the so<br \/>\ncalled &quot;smart money&quot; will do (institutions do much of their trading in<br \/>\nthe last hour of the day).&nbsp; Many traders will avoid making a sell decision<br \/>\n(or in this case, a cover decision until then).&nbsp; However, if SFA surges<br \/>\nabove 31with heavy volume I would be covering regardless of when that occurs,<br \/>\nconsidering that volume levels will tell you what institutions are<br \/>\ndoing. The only exception might be in the first 30&nbsp;&#8211; 60 min.&nbsp;of trading, where I<br \/>\ntypically avoid making any trading decision.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><strong>Follow up question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>Thanks.&nbsp; Just curious, do you use more of a mental stop than a hard stop<br \/>\norder so you can watch volume?&nbsp; And if SFA goes above 31 on light volume<br \/>\nwill you not sell.<\/p>\n<p>Since I don&#8217;t trade full time and have trouble monitoring trades<br \/>\nthroughout the day I enter stop orders immediately after a trade has<br \/>\nbeen entered.&nbsp; I have placed my stop on SFA at 31.&nbsp; This seems to work<br \/>\nbest for me but always open to suggestions if you have any (I feel exits<br \/>\nare one of the more important aspects to trading and always looking to<br \/>\nimprove in this area).<\/p>\n<p><strong>My Response<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">Since I am able to watch the market most days, I don&#8217;t use stop orders.<br \/>\nThis way I can base my decision on volume levels as well as the strength<br \/>\nof the market.&nbsp; To answer your question, I would be less likely to cover if<br \/>\nthe stock rises through resistance with light volume.&nbsp; Although, it would be<br \/>\nsurprising to see it get past those resistance levels with light volume.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">Most are not able to watch the market during the day, so you MUST use<br \/>\nstops.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s a hint though.&nbsp; Never place a stop on a whole number.&nbsp; You<br \/>\nincrease your chances of getting shaken out.&nbsp; Remember that market makers know<br \/>\nall stop loss levels.&nbsp; It is human nature to want to set stops at even numbers,<br \/>\nso there will be a large number of stops at those places.&nbsp; Market makers<br \/>\nmay run a stock up in order to cause a short squeeze.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to get<br \/>\ntoo complicated here.. make sure you place stops at odd numbers where others<br \/>\nwont&#8217;.&nbsp; So maybe 31.23 or something like that.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: Would you cover on an intra-day bounce above 31 or closing above 31? My Response: The reason for waiting until market close would be&nbsp; to see what the so called &quot;smart money&quot; will do (institutions do much of their trading in the last hour of the day).&nbsp; Many traders will avoid making a sell &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/mail-bag\/discussion-of-a-short-trade-dont-place-stops-at-whole-numbers\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Discussion of a Short Trade &#8211; Don&#8217;t Place Stops At Whole Numbers<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-481","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail-bag"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/481","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=481"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/481\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=481"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=481"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=481"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}