{"id":1234,"date":"2009-01-26T19:19:18","date_gmt":"2009-01-27T00:19:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/news\/peter-schiffs-euro-pacific-capital-down-40-70-in-2008\/"},"modified":"2009-02-10T17:06:51","modified_gmt":"2009-02-10T22:06:51","slug":"peter-schiffs-euro-pacific-capital-down-40-70-in-2008","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/news\/peter-schiffs-euro-pacific-capital-down-40-70-in-2008\/","title":{"rendered":"Peter Schiff&#8217;s Euro Pacific Capital Down 40 &#8211; 70% in 2008?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/peter-schiff.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px 0px 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px\" height=\"119\" alt=\"peter_schiff\" src=\"http:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/peter-schiff-thumb.jpg\" width=\"91\" align=\"right\" border=\"0\"><\/a>If you&#8217;ve been following the financial markets this year with any degree of interest, you&#8217;ve probably heard of Peter Schiff.&nbsp; He&#8217;s&nbsp; been a media favorite over the past year for calling the US financial collapse and has been everywhere from CNBC to Glenn Beck to CNN to Fox to Bloomberg.&nbsp; I even spotted him in Newsweek a couple weeks ago being credited with calling the collapse.. In an era of rampant corruption, fraud, inept CEO&#8217;s and fund managers, Mr Schiff has been made out to be somewhat of a hero in all this.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s give credit where credit is due.&nbsp; Peter Schiff has been sounding the alarm for quite awhile and while doing so was often ridiculed by the talking heads on CNBC a year ago.&nbsp; Much of what he&#8217;s been saying has come to pass&#8230; at least in the US financial markets.<\/p>\n<p> <!--more-->  <\/p>\n<p>Ah, but there seems to be one small problem.&nbsp; According to Michael Shedlock, <a href=\"http:\/\/globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/peter-schiff-was-wrong.html\">Peter Schiff, the President and Chief Global Strategist of Euro Pacific Capital not only didn&#8217;t profit from the financial collapse<\/a>, he failed to do what every other so called professional failed to do for their clients last year.&nbsp; PRESERVE CAPITAL.&nbsp; Turns out, he was largely right on the US macro picture and called a US equity crash but believed global markets would not folllow due to decoupling and that the dollar would continue to crash.&nbsp; Rather than shorting US equities he shorted the dollar (with a bet on hyperinflation) and bought foreign equities and commodities.&nbsp; According to some of Schiff&#8217;s own clients, portfolios invested with Schiff were down anywhere from 40 &#8211; 70% last year. Ouch.&nbsp; (Shedlock posted an image of an actual Schiff portfolio)<\/p>\n<p>Michael Shedlock points out 12 ways Peter Schiff was wrong last year:<\/p>\n<p>12 Ways Schiff Was Wrong in 2008 <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wrong about hyperinflation\n<li>Wrong about the dollar\n<li>Wrong about commodities except for gold\n<li>Wrong about foreign currencies except for the Yen\n<li>Wrong about foreign equities\n<li>Wrong in timing\n<li>Wrong in risk management\n<li>Wrong in buy and hold thesis\n<li>Wrong on decoupling\n<li>Wrong on China\n<li>Wrong on US treasuries\n<li>Wrong on interest rates, both foreign and domestic<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I&#8217;ll point out that you can&#8217;t beat up Peter Schiff for being wrong.&nbsp; We&#8217;re all wrong at times.&nbsp; Where he can&#8217;t be excused is in risk management.&nbsp; He has a vested interest to stick with a certain strategy because he&#8217;s written a book about it, but he couldn&#8217;t admit when he was wrong and move on..&nbsp; Arrogance in this business is not a recipe for market beating returns.&nbsp; In my opinion BEWARE of the fund manager who is all over the news outlets.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Shedlock has not ruled out that perhaps he stumbled upon the worst portfolios from Schiff and offers a challenge to clear the air:&nbsp; post the average returns by clients of Euro Pacific Capital on a year by year basis.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>:::::::::<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Peter Schiff&#8217;s brother <a href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.baltimoresun.com\/business\/hancock\/blog\/2009\/01\/schiff_firm_shedlock_exaggerat.html\">Andrew Schiff responded to the article<\/a> to the Baltimore Sun&#8217;s Jay Hancock, saying that Shedlock&#8217;s piece is &#8220;primarily an attempt to attract business to his own firm (Sitka Capital Management), by bashing a much larger and better known firm. However, the strategies employed by the two firms are completely different and make a direct comparison useless.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Andrew Schiff does acknowledge that accounts at Euro Pacific have suffered badly in 08 but the losses are exaggerated by Shedlock and that because they are a broker dealer, aren&#8217;t allowed to post returns.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p> <center><script>\n<!--\nvar cn=\"9si\";\n-->\n<\/script>  <script language=\"JavaScript\" src=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/fw\/regular_largebutton.js\"><\/script><\/center><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been following the financial markets this year with any degree of interest, you&#8217;ve probably heard of Peter Schiff.&nbsp; He&#8217;s&nbsp; been a media favorite over the past year for calling the US financial collapse and has been everywhere from CNBC to Glenn Beck to CNN to Fox to Bloomberg.&nbsp; I even spotted him in &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/news\/peter-schiffs-euro-pacific-capital-down-40-70-in-2008\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Peter Schiff&#8217;s Euro Pacific Capital Down 40 &#8211; 70% in 2008?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1234","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1234","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1234"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1234\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1234"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1234"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/selfinvestors.com\/tradingstocks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1234"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}